Tilehurst Globe

Minutes of meeting Wednesday 16th July 2003 Tilehurst Free Church (Main Hall)

Present: Liz Ellis (chair), 66 local residents and RBC representatives (Jo Lovelock, Andrew Daykin, Alec Kennedy, Steve Ward, Head Teacher of Park Lane School

 

Welcome and introductions

Liz welcomed the many people new to Globe meetings and explained the background to the group. Globe is concerned with the quality of the environment-locally and wider afield. This special meeting had one item on the agenda - the Park Lane School/Blagrave Rec. Scheme. Liz welcomed Andrew Daykin, Director of Education and Community, the other officers, and Jo Lovelock, Lead Cllr for Education, to the meeting. 

Andrew Daykin introduced the scheme: he explained that the Scheme is at a preliminary stage. There are no detailed plans, and the council is seeking comments from all parties. This is the first of several stages of consultation. If comments are broadly supportive then the council will proceed to further stages of consultation e.g. with Charity Commission, Sport England, so that the earliest a worked out scheme could be completed would be 2004 with construction starting 2004/5. As with many schemes the devil is in the detail, yet this is not a planning application - aspects such as access, transport will be considered after the initial broad-brush consultation. The scheme involves replacement of the buildings of two schools (Park lane primary and, Blagrave Nursery School) enhancement of community facilities (library and clinic) .The downside is disposal of land and community assets and use of part of Blagrave Recreation Ground as a school playing field. Some government funding is available, but it is insufficient to pay for the entire scheme.

Cllr Jo Lovelock: Reiterated the importance of responding to the consultation questions - encourage everyone, neighbours etc to reply. Council officers are already working on some of the issues raised.

 

Questions (summarised and re-grouped, some covering similar points have been combined):

Q: If there Trustees of the Charity that owns the Recreation Ground were independent rather than the Council itself would they approve the scheme?

A Jo: The Charity Commission has legal powers and will act as independent referee for the scheme to proceed. They check that the Council behaves properly. People can write to the Charity Commission with their own comments. Planning departments too are fierce when Councils submit their own applications. The roles of the Council as Trustee and as Education authority are separate.

Q: How is the scheme justified –Blagrave Recreation ground was given to benefit children under 14 year at all times. Will the fence be taken down out of school hours?

A: The question is how best to serve these children, the impact on the beneficial class. The Council think the scheme is best for the beneficiaries of the Trust.

Q: What if the Charity commission do not agree?

A: If the commission do not agree this scheme will not go ahead.

Q: Have they not given an idea in advance?

A: The Commission lawyers have said it is a legitimate scheme, and what the council must do is satisfy the needs of the beneficial class.

Q At what stage will they be approached to say yes/no to the scheme?

A; There will be a report to RBC Cabinet in Sept, if they agree to proceed the Commission will be approached after that.

Q: How long has Blagrave Nursery School been on the Recreation ground. It should never have been allowed. We do not want to lose 40 % of the Recreation ground. The children who play there do not want it to be cut about either.

A: The governors of Park Lane School have come forward with a scheme for better facilities for the school; the council added   the library, clinic and the nursery school (originally a 1945 temporary building). Staff  in the two schools do an excellent job with what they have, but buildings are past sell-by dates. Choice is between better facilities, but need more cash.  We have £2 million from the government, need  £4 million more so must realize some assets to fund the scheme.

Q: What is wrong with the buildings?

A: Rooms are wrong shape and size, We can’t get all the children together; the school is on 4 sites.

Q: Why one integrated school, not separate infants and juniors?

A: Space requirements for separate schools are even greater, also they cost more to run. The Governors and Council want Park Lane Primary to remain one school.

Q: What is so bad about Park Lane School building; several others are same age E.g. Caversham Park

A: Problem is that it is split site, one issue is the difficulty for parents meeting several children.

Q: Is this a good enough reason for us to spoil the Recreation Ground, de-value properties?

Q: What about Meadway school building-why not re-draw catchment areas?

A. Meadway School is in a bad state and in the wrong place. Schools should serve local communities Church End, Moorlands, St Michaels are all very close. The future of Avenue school is being decided - suggestions include replacing The Avenue Special School on part of the Meadway site.

Q: Most people are concerned at selling off the land. What assurances have we all the cash realised will go to Tilehurst?

A:  All plans will have full financial details attached. Some cash is available from PCT

Q: What about the Triangle proposals?

A: The proposals for the Triangle will not be considered until the future for the school is clear (Spring 2004)

Q: I want to ask about the facilities for under 14 s. In what ways will they be improved?

A: They will have new school buildings and a new play area at Downing Rd playing Field.

Q: The intake of the school will be reduced to 60, are there enough school places?

A: Yes we have studied the housing figures for existing and projected houses. There will be enough places for all children in the (slightly) revised catchment area .The intake of 60 is far better than 72 organisationally-school classes are 30 .The catchment area will be altered a little to ensure the new school

Q: This questionnaire is unfair and difficult to complete. I do agree about combining the schools, but I do not agree with the loss of open space, and an interesting building. I want the old Park Lane School building kept. It is a fine balance of judgement, I want more work done on costings and look for some more cash.  I want a school for 21 Century.

Q: Why is the building only for 50 years

A: This is notional, if no maintenance were done, we expect it to last much longer..

Q: The questionnaire is deceptive .The issue is we do not want houses on Downing Rd and on Park Lane junior school site-we want assurances about this now. This would be changing the face of Tilehurst, losing the open space, more houses we don’t want.

 

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Q. If people will assume the funding issue has been sorted out - another source of cash has been located.

 

Please consider an alternative proposal from the Globe Group.

 

These Globe proposals mean that the Recreation Ground can be left intact if the Junior school site is used for the library, Clinic and Early Years Centre , with the integrated primary school on the current laurels and Library sites.

 

 (Applause)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Q: Why is the Council content to sell off land when it was opposed to selling off allotment land owned by another Charity?

A.: The situations are different. One was on the edge of the escarpment-scenery value.

Q: Why knock down the clinic? I worked there 30 years. 2 dental surgeries 9 other rooms

Q: Why are old buildings necessarily bad-some queue up to pay money to go to old schools.

Q: Once the Council tried to put a road through the rec. they were stopped. Old people remember the opposition to the Red Cross hut and building the nursery. We do not want them spoiling the recreation ground.

Q: The Council is proposing a scheme that squashes too much into a small space-and then wants to sell off assets, leaving no room for growth.

Q: We currently suffer from noise pollution living in Recreation Rd. We want to be sure the council keep an eye on over 14 s in the Recreation ground and on Downing Rd playing Field.

 

 In response to a suggestion it was agreed to ask the meeting if they supported the Council Scheme as outlined.

6 people supported the scheme, with an overwhelming majority against. There was no agreement about whether to put an alternative to the meeting.

 

Liz thanked the speakers for coming and all for attending the meeting. After reminding people to complete their questionnaires and send in their letters before 30 July, she closed the meeting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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